Obama, Clinton Push Gun Control Within Hours After Charleston Shooting – Dana Loesch

Sparks Fly in this heated debate between Dana Loesch and Nomiki Konst over the validity if elevating gun control laws would eliminate mass shootings

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  • “Arms” alone are insufficient to secure a “free State”, which the 1st 13 words of the 2nd Amendment make crystal clear. One has only to read the 2nd Amendment — all of 27 words— to know that the amendment is not declaring an individual “gun right” only. The Framers, in the 2nd Amendment. conjoined the individual right with the collective duty of the same individuals to serve in the Militia.

    After having delegated broad legal authority to the Militia in the original Constitution, the 2nd Amendment reinforced them as “necessary”. Militia are state government institutions, organized under statute, with full legal authority, civilian in character.

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    • ShawnCochrum

      You need to go back and read the writings of the founders concerning gun rights. They considered all people to be part of the militia. At the time, well regulated meant they had firearms that were kept in good condition and they knew how to use them. The militias were NOT state government institutions. Please, go back and read.

      • When THE PEOPLE referred to “[a] well regulated Militia” in the Second Amendment in1791, they knew exactly what the salient principles of “regulat[ion]” were, because those principles could be found, repeated again and again, in statute after statute the Colonies and then the independent States had enacted throughout the 1600s and 1700s. And when THE PEOPLE authorized Congress “[t]o provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia” (Article I, Section 8, Clause 16), they knew to the last detail what those activities entailed, because they were familiar with the “well regulated Militia” the Colonies’ and States’ statutes had produced in the past.

        Militia had been existence as a matter of fact and law for over 150 years, at all times prior to and after the ratification of the Constitution. The militia statutes that define these structures in great detail define exactly what “a well regulated militia” was in every one of the 13 original colonies, then independent states. These are JUST SOME of the militia statutes from Rhode Island and Virginia:

        RHODE ISLAND

        [1699, 1701, and 1705] “An Act for the better regulating the militia, and for punishing offenders as shall not conform to the law thereunto relating.”

        [1718, 1730, and 1744] “An Act for the Repealing several Laws relating to the Militia within this Colony, and for further Regulation of the same.”

        [1726] An Act for regulating the Militia, and the Election of the Officers of each respective Company in this Colony

        [1730] “[N]o Constraint shall be laid upon the Conscience of any Person whatsoever, by Force of any Act or Law for the keeping up or regulating the Militia within this Colony”.

        [1755] Petitioners seeking a charter for an Independent Company “proposed the Laws of the Colony made for regulating the Militia, for the Rule of their Conduct”.

        [1755] An ACT in Addition to the several Acts regulating the Militia in this Colony.

        1756] An ACT in Addition to, and Amendment of the several Acts regulating the Militia.

        [1766] An ACT, regulating the Militia in this Colony.

        [1774] An ACT in addition to, and amendment of, an Act entitled “An Act regulating the Militia of this Colony[”].

        [1779] “WHEREAS the Security and Defence of all free States essentially depend, under God, upon the Exertions of a well regulated Militia: * * * Wherefore, for the better forming, regulating and conducting the military Force of this State, Be it Enacted * * * [.]” An ACT for the better forming, regulating and conducting the military Force of this State.

        VIRGINIA

        [1723] “WHEREAS a due regulation of the Militia is absolutely necessary for the defence of this country * * * .” An Act for the settling and better Regulation of the Militia.

        [1738] An Act, for the better Regulation of the Militia.

        [1754] An Act for amending the act, intituled, An Act for the better regulation of the militia.

        [1755] An Act for the better regulating and training the Militia.

        [1757] An Act for the better regulating and disciplining the Militia.

        [1759] An Act for continuing an Act, intitutled, An Act for the better regulating and disciplining the Militia.

        [1762] An Act for amending and further continuing the act for the better regulating and disciplining the Militia.

        ]1766] An act to continue and amend the act for the better regulating and disciplining the militia.

        [1771] An act for further continuing the act, intituled An act for the better regulating and disciplining the militia.

        [1777] An act for regulating and disciplining the Militia.

        [1779] An act for the better regulation and discipline of the militia.

        [1781] An act to amend the act for regulating and disciplining the militia, and for other purposes.

        [1782] An act to amend the act, intituled, An act for establishing and regulating the militia.

        [1784] An act for amending the several laws for regulating and disciplining the militia, and guarding against invasions and insurrections.

        [1785] An act to amend and reduce into one act, the several laws for regulating and disciplining the militia, and guarding against invasions and insurrections.

  • LGS

    Dana cleaned her clock..

    • henryknox

      Why don’t Progressives have a conscience? They will distort the truth and flat out lie to achieve their ends, yet they never seem to honestly regret the deception.

    • John

      Yep! Dana’s brilliant.

    • Everyone should clean their Glock.
      Oh, wait, I read your comment too fast 🙂

  • Adam

    I can assure you, when they banned the guns in Australia, 20 years later, you would think there were no shootings in Australia… But hey, we have drive by shootings etc nightly now. 90% of all shootings are investigated by the middle eastern crime squad… go figure…

  • Hugie59 PA

    The ignorant masses, as the under informed voters use to be labeled, will discount Jindal’s negative statement about the President’s comments as election year rhetoric when in fact Obama continues to stoke the fires of racism and divisiveness and he does nothing to lead the people he represents to come together and unite against the haters. He wants discord for a political goal of controlling guns, taking them out of the hands of law abiding citizens while we know criminals will get them. Look at his home town Chicago with the strictest gun control laws on the books is awash with murder by illegally obtained guns.

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  • John M. Cooper

    Correct, “gun crime” did go down in Australia…but she’s being deceptive & she knows it. All crime in Australia except for gun violence “shot up” drastically with no end in sight!!!

  • AHH!!!

    i think the public should take action on Obama and the Clintons. Fk gun control.

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